PCS DISCUSSION FORUM ~ Please See Below to Register ~    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  The time now is Sun May 20, 2012 8:41 pm PCS DISCUSSION FORUM Forum Index View unanswered posts  Forum   Topics   Posts   Last Post  THE PROTOCOL - PLEASE START HERE   * FORUM WELCOME & INTRODUCTION * Optional but Recommended!     2 3 Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:37 am Robert Howes *** PLEASE READ BEFORE USING THIS FORUM *** HOW TO USE THIS FORUM -- IMPORTANT GUIDELINES     4 8 Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:25 pm Robert Howes *** PLEASE READ BEFORE REGISTERING FOR THIS FORUM *** HOW TO JOIN THIS FORUM -- NECESSARY PROCEDURE     1 1 Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:59 pm Vince THE PARTICIPANTS   DECLARE YOUR PCS AFFILIATE STATUS HERE This Forum area is where you voluntarily declare yourself a Project For a Cooperative Society "Affiliate." In doing so, you are encouraged to introduce and describe yourselves, and tell us why you decided to affiliate with PCS. A photo of yourself would be great, too!     2 5 Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:24 pm Robert Howes NEW FORUM MEMBERS - INTRODUCE YOURSELVES HERE New members of our PCS Forum: you are encouraged to introduce yourselves here. Tell us about yourselves, and why you decided to join the PCS Forum! A photo of yourself would be great, too!     6 16 Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:42 pm davidc THE PETITIONERS   For Absolute Beginners! If you are completely new to the notion of a Cooperative Society, and you find yourself clueless, even after reading other areas of the PCS Forum, and the PCS website, proper, this is the forum area for you! You can post any question here, no matter how elementary. No question here is "stupid" -- every question is a good one!     1 1 Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:49 pm Vince For Teens & Young People Whether teen or young adult, this forum area is for you! Ask your questions and tell us your problems, as you seek happiness or even just survival, negotiating your way through this complex and stressful 21st-century, hyper-capitalist, social and economic environment. No topic or issue is unwelcome or taboo, from money and jobs, to dating and relationships, to home and family, to friends and school, to future and career! What can PCS and its program to establish a love-centered Cooperative Society offer *you*?     1 1 Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:17 pm Vince THE PAPERS   Discuss Current News & Events ...From the Cooperative or revolutionary perspective, if possible.     8 12 Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:09 pm Robert Howes Current Protest Activity What protest activity is occurring, anywhere in the world, pertinent to building a Cooperative Society? As of October 2011, for example, "Occupy Wall Street," and its offshoots, seem relevant.     2 3 Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:17 pm Vince THE PRELIMINARIES   Introduction Important questions and considerations, whether basic or advanced, relevant to establishing and operating a Cooperative economy and society in the modern day. Our general discussion area for topics not present elsewhere in the PCS Discussion Forum.     1 1 Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:45 pm Vince Is it Necessary? Is the money-and-profit system really sufficiently bad that it must be completely discarded? What about the notion that it can be retained and improved, i.e. "reformed"?     1 4 Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:45 am Robert Howes Is it Possible? Includes discussion of the psychology of revolution.     1 1 Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:26 pm Robert Howes Social Critics & Thinkers Public advocates of *reform* of capitalism, instead of a Cooperative Society as defined by PCS, or in its more usual libertarian socialist definition.     10 11 Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:54 am Robert Howes Forms of Social Organization Many people erroneously think capitalism has always existed, and thus will always exist. Wrong!     1 7 Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:45 am Robert Howes THE PROBLEMS   Introduction Specific analysis of the problems of capitalism, with conclusions. After delineating a problem of capitalism, please discuss how and why that problem would not exist under a Cooperative System. Show your work!     1 1 Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:03 am Vince Economically Unstable Problem: the capitalist economy is unstable. Can you say "business cycle"?     1 7 Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:02 am Robert Howes Rampant Commercialism Problem: capitalism creates an environment of rampant commercialism.     2 2 Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:42 pm activeopenprogramming Accelerates the Pace of Life Problem: capitalism pathologically accelerates the pace of life.     1 1 Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:47 pm Vince Provides Flawed Products... Problem: capitalism provides flawed products and services.     4 5 Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:03 am Vince ...in a Flawed Manner Problem: capitalism provides products and services in a flawed manner.     1 1 Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:51 pm Vince Does not Provide Full Employment Problem: capitalism does not provide full employment.     1 1 Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:11 am Robert Howes Creates Superfluous Want Problem: capitalism creates superfluous want.     0 0 No Posts Causes Hostility & Conflict Between People Problem: capitalism causes hostility & conflict between people.     1 1 Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:17 am activeopenprogramming Destroys our Perception of Reality Problem: capitalism destroys our very perception of reality.     1 1 Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:50 pm activeopenprogramming Keeps us in a Slave Status Problem: capitalism keeps us in a slave status.     1 2 Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:21 am Robert Howes Keeps Wages Low Problem: capitalism keeps wages low.     1 1 Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:38 am Robert Howes Does not Provide Healthy Employment Problem: capitalism does not provide healthy employment for workers.     1 1 Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:49 am Robert Howes Devalues and Exploits Children Problem: capitalism devalues and exploits children.     1 2 Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:03 am Robert Howes Engenders Loss of Privacy and Trust Problem: capitalism engenders loss of privacy and trust.     1 1 Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:06 am Robert Howes Contributes to Mental Illness Problem: capitalism contributes to mental illness.     2 3 Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:20 am Robert Howes Contributes to Physical Illness Problem: capitalism contributes to physical illness.     1 2 Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:51 am Robert Howes And after We're Ill, does not Provide Health Care In a Cooperative Society, health care would be a human right, and absolutely free. And of equal importance--a Cooperative Society would not make us sick in the first place.     2 3 Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:56 am Robert Howes Causes the Underdevelopment of the Human Mind Problem: capitalism causes the underdevelopment of the human mind.     1 1 Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:45 am activeopenprogramming Usurps Democracy Problem: capitalism usurps democracy in favor of consumerism and escapism.     0 0 No Posts Has us Working on the Wrong Problems Problem: capitalism has society working on the wrong set of problems.     0 0 No Posts Makes Modern Life Unnecessarily Complex Problem: capitalism makes modern life unnecessarily complex.     1 1 Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:18 am activeopenprogramming Compromises Art and Artist Problem: capitalism compromises both art and artist.     0 0 No Posts Does not Provide Equal Opportunity Problem: capitalism does not provide equal opportunity to all citizens.     0 0 No Posts Drives Inferior Customer Service Problem: capitalism drives inferior customer service.     0 0 No Posts Causes Loss of Decency and Courtesy Problem: capitalism causes a loss of decency and courtesy in human interaction.     0 0 No Posts Usurps Consumer Choice Problem: capitalism usurps consumer choice by deciding what will be for sale, and then pushing consumers toward those items.     0 0 No Posts Endeavors to Get Your Every Last Penny Problem: capitalism continually tries to pull every last penny out of your pocket.     1 1 Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:23 pm Robert Howes Drives Inordinate Police and Security Scrutiny Problem: capitalism drives increasing and inordinate police and security scrutiny.     1 2 Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:31 pm Robert Howes Wastes Social Resources Under capitalism, many industries exist that are actually socially unnecessary, and would not exist in a Cooperative Society. These industries include banking, insurance, and advertising. In the meantime, they will continue to exist, wasting human time, energy, and effort, as well as all manner of natural and other resources.     1 1 Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:38 pm Robert Howes Wastes Natural Resources Problem: capitalism wastes natural resources.     1 1 Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:18 pm Robert Howes Destroys our Natural Environment Problem: capitalism is the source of pollution and much other environmental damage.     0 0 No Posts Threatens the Existence of Planet Earth Problem: capitalism threatens the very existence of planet Earth, itself.     0 0 No Posts Threatens the Existence of the Human Race Problem: capitalism threatens the very existence of the human race!     0 0 No Posts Causes Continual Stress Problem: capitalism causes continual stress, the factor most antithetical to good health.     0 0 No Posts Does not Bring Deep & Genuine Happiness Problem: capitalism does not bring deep, genuine, and lasting happiness and contentment.     1 1 Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:31 pm Vince Causes the Dissolution of the Family Problem: capitalism causes the breakup of the family. Constant economic pressure, in the form of conflict between partners over money, and the need for both partners to work constantly, prevents the maintenance of a healthy and flourishing family unit.     0 0 No Posts Kills Marriage Problem: capitalism kills marriage. This occurs because of conflict over money, the most common reason for divorce in America, and because capitalism proffers a relatively superficial notion of love, consonant with its entire superficial value set.     0 0 No Posts Erodes Education and Literacy Problem: capitalism erodes education and literacy.     2 2 Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:26 am Vince Makes it Difficult to Love Others Problem: capitalism provides infertile soil for brotherly love. At every level, capitalism works against the attempt to fully love other people. A key PCS concern.     1 1 Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:25 am Vince Works Against the Religious & Spiritual Problem: capitalism and its culture works against the attempt to engage in full and genuine religious or spiritual practice. (Duh!)     0 0 No Posts Other Problems This is the forum area for problems caused by capitalism that are not discussed in a dedicated forum, above.     0 0 No Posts THE PROGRAM   The PCS Program Delineation of the unique and powerful PCS program for dramatic social change. This Forum area describes our dual program; the two Forum areas below, THE PRINCIPLES, and THE PATH, invite discussion. Read here first!     1 1 Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:48 pm Vince THE PRINCIPLES   Introduction Introduction to, and discussion of, the basic principles of the PCS program.     0 0 No Posts Two Root Causes of Human Problems There are root causes, two of them, for just about all of the problems of individuals and the world: 1.) the money-and-profit system called capitalism, and 2.) human ego, the impulse toward narcissism that is a natural concomitant of capitalism.     2 21 Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:52 pm The Greenman The Cooperative Alternative A society based on money, profit, marketing, advertising, and competition, called capitalism, is not our only choice to organize our society, and our world. A viable alternative is a Cooperative Society, whereby the economy would be democratically managed in an organized fashion by all of us.     3 18 Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:34 am Vince Would Solve Intractable Problems The replacement of capitalism with such a cooperative system would be extremely beneficial to humankind. It would solve many problems which simply cannot be solved in a society whose chief focus is money and profits, not people.     0 0 No Posts Would Extend Democracy to the Economy Right now under capitalism, our current system, we have political democracy (we can vote for politicians every few years), but we do not have economic democracy (we have no control over our jobs or the economy). This is a key inadequacy of capitalism, since most of the concerns we have in the modern age relate to the economy: jobs, pay, benefits, working conditions, cost-of-living, and other economic matters.     2 2 Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:25 pm Vince No Ownership of the Means of Production, & Natural Resources CONO is a key PCS Cooperative principal: there will be "Common Operation, (but) No Ownership" of land and all other finite natural resources, and the means of production, in a Cooperative Society. This principle does not pertain to personal items.     1 11 Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:09 am Vince Public Control of Production Decisions and Production Under a Cooperative System, people will commonly own, and democratically self-manage, their respective industries according to the production decisions made collectively by society. Society--us--decides what to produce, and the industries produce it! For use, not money!     0 0 No Posts Production to Meet Human Needs & Wants We will produce goods and services cooperatively, in accord, if possible, with the idea of Louis Blanc: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."     3 3 Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:11 pm Vince Love Ethic as Ethico-Behavioral Underpinning Adoption of the "Love Ethic" will be a logical and necessary co-requisite in the new society, and is thus a formal part of the PCS Cooperative program.     4 22 Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:28 pm Vince Revolution, not Reform Required is a transformation of society, a complete and total conversion to a Cooperative system. Attempting to "reform" this or that problem would be an extremely ineffective, piecemeal approach, which would not bring the kind of dramatic change humankind requires, and deserves.     1 1 Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:44 pm activeopenprogramming The Peaceful Ballot Must be Used Nations with viable democratic mechanisms, such as the United States, must make the transition to a Cooperative Society peacefully, via the ballot box. Nations without such mechanisms must be assessed on a case-by-case basis.     1 1 Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:53 pm Vince A Yet-Untried Approach A Cooperative System is an untried approach, never having yet existed anywhere in the world.     0 0 No Posts Cooperative Industrial Framework The actual governmental management structure that will allow the citizenry to control industry in the new Cooperative Society is the "Cooperative Industrial Framework."     1 5 Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:45 am Vince THE PATH   Introduction Discussion of the steps in the PCS road, or "roadmap," to revolution: how we'll get from point A to point B, in all its detail, richness, and possibility.     0 0 No Posts Step #1 - Initiate a Public Conversation PCS Roadmap Step #1: Initiate a national (if not international) discussion of the problems of capitalism, and the Cooperative alternative.     2 2 Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:32 pm Vince Step #2 - Persuade a Majority PCS Roadmap Step #2: persuade a majority of people that we should transition to a Cooperative System.     2 2 Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:51 am Vince Step #3 - Vote Advocates into Office PCS Roadmap Step #3: vote advocates of the transition into office at every level.     1 1 Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:33 pm Vince Step #4 - Compose the new Constitution PCS Roadmap Step #4: Write or continue to write the new Cooperative Constitution.     0 0 No Posts Step #5 - Conduct Official Vote on the Transition PCS Roadmap Step #5: Transition the idea to a legislative form, and vote it in!     0 0 No Posts Step #6 - Reorganize the Economy and Institutions PCS Roadmap Step #6: In accord with the new founding document. Begin life in our brand new Cooperative Society!     1 1 Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:10 pm Vince The Path in Non-Democratic Societies     0 0 No Posts Raising Awareness How can we--or can we at all--raise awareness among people regarding how capitalism is hurting them, and the overwhelming advantages of a Cooperative Society (CS)? Put another way, how can we raise the general level of "class-consciousness" among people? What *is* its level presently among various groups of people?     5 7 Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:28 am Vince All at Once, or Region-by-Region Can a Cooperative Society be successfully established in one geographical region, or must such a new society be established everywhere at once?     1 2 Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:51 pm Robert Howes THE PEOPLE   Introduction Which individuals and groups, past or present, are, or have been, relevant to the Cooperative project? Be sure to read this Introduction before posting in this forum area.     1 1 Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:39 pm Vince Groups     13 13 Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:25 am Vince Individuals This forum is for introductory, general or casual discussion of the work of individuals, or discussion of them as historical personages, including questions of their personal life. Extended or detailed discussion of their theories and body of work belongs in our other Forum area, THE PARADIGMS.     16 16 Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:57 am Vince THE PARADIGMS   Introduction The various theoretical corpi.     1 1 Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:19 am Vince Frommism     1 3 Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:01 pm Vince Marxism     3 5 Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:07 am Robert Howes De Leonism     4 4 Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:10 am Vince Love Theory     1 1 Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:30 am Vince Christian Socialism     1 1 Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:45 am Vince Venus Project/Zeitgeist Mvmt. Discuss the program for social change formulated by Jacque Fresco, and the associated work of Peter Joseph.     2 5 Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:01 am Vince Miscellany Last but not least category! ParEcon, etc.     1 1 Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:34 am Vince THE PROSCRIPTIONS   Introduction What must the future Cooperative Society avoid in its various phases of operation and existence? What must we avoid in managing our new Cooperative Society?     0 0 No Posts Infinite Global Population Growth PCS asserts the need to seriously consider whether the Cooperative Society will require some kind of limit on global population growth. Even with the various economy efficiencies we'll gain under a Cooperative System, resources will likely never be infinite.     0 0 No Posts THE PROBATIVE   The Probative - Introduction - What can we offer people by way of "evidence" or "proof" that Cooperative socialism will work?     1 4 Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:44 am Robert Howes Model Cooperative Communities Might we not build one or more model cooperative communities, embodying cooperative praxis and principles?     4 12 Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:25 pm Robert Howes THE PAN   Introduction - Criticism of PCS principles, assumptions, and the PCS program.     0 0 No Posts THE PLAUDITS   Introduction Approbation for the PCS Program. Be specific about what you like!     1 1 Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:57 pm activeopenprogramming THE PRAXIS   Introduction Creative speculation and imaginings of what day-to-day life would be like under a Cooperative System (CS).     1 1 Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:05 pm activeopenprogramming THE PROSPECTUS   Introduction How are we presenting the Cooperative project to the public? Who is doing it right, and wrong? Does the lingo-free, non-ideological approach of PCS (and the former NUP) constitute the future of Cooperative outreach?     0 0 No Posts THE PRETENDERS   Introduction A forum for discussion and consideration of ideologies and philosophies that erroneously purport, often in good faith, to hold the key to human justice and happiness. Some of these ideas, including modern-day liberalism and conservatism, seek to perfect or improve capitalism. Others, such as Socialist or Communist Vanguardism, seek to replace it, but with substandard alternative paradigms and models.     0 0 No Posts Liberalism Discussion and deconstruction of the pro-capitalism philosophy of liberalism. I do not refer here to broad or classical liberalism, but to latter-day liberalism, especially of the American variety. Modern-day proponents include Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich.     2 3 Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:08 pm Vince Centrism The Clintons actually fall here, not under Liberalism. While perhaps a bitter pill, your vote for Hillary, Barack, or John Edwards will actually accomplish little, as they all advocate the continuation of captalism--which is one of the two root causes of all our problems.     1 1 Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:18 am Vince Conservatism Discussion and deconstruction of the pro-capitalism philosophy of conservatism. I do not refer here to broad or classical conservatism, but to latter-day conservatism, especially of the American variety. What will your vote for Rudy or John McCain actually accomplish?     0 0 No Posts Social Democracy Historically a European phenomenon, this refers to a movement or body of thought that asserts that the answers to the problems of humankind remain in capitalism, provided it undergoes deep and large-scale reform, and its government is run explicitly in the social interest.     0 0 No Posts Vanguardism Discussion of Leninism and other vanguardist philosophies.     1 2 Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:21 pm Robert Howes THE PAST   Introduction Discussion of past revolutions: exploring such questions as how they came about, and their relevance to a modern Cooperative revolution. Examples would include the American Revolution, French Revolution, and the dissolution of the Soviet Union.     0 0 No Posts THE PUPILS   Introduction We are all students of society--let's assist each other in our study! What are your most recommended books, journals, periodicals, and other printed or electronic matter, and DVDs, CDs, and other digital media?     3 4 Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:15 am Robert Howes THE PICTURES   Introduction Post images of revolutionary significance here!     1 1 Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:06 pm Vince THE PRESS   Introduction Announcements, reprints, and discussion of media coverage of People For a Cooperative Society.     2 2 Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:49 pm Vince THE POETRY   Revolutionary Artistic Creation Whether painting, sculpture, photography, poetry, prose, dance, musical composition, or another creative form. It's all the poetry of revolution!     1 1 Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:21 pm Vince THE MOVEMENT   Introduction Discussion of the internal politics and operation of the various democratic socialist parties and organizations. This forum also provides a space for resignations, death notices, and other movement and organizationally-related information.     0 0 No Posts The Promos Announce news and upcoming events for your organization or website here!     1 1 Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:49 pm Vince Fallen Comrades I've begun this topic to note the death, and honor the life, of deceased socialists, or sympathizers, with emphasis on comrades possessing a libertarian socialist orientation.     5 5 Sat May 01, 2010 6:10 pm Vince Resignations If desired, announce your resignation--or termination--here, from this or that organization. Tell us what happened. 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